. And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. But the latest intelligence now has Ministry of Defence chiefs worried about a much larger incursion, raising fears of warfare engulfing cities and high civilian death tolls. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. Whats the Latin 50% because decimate is only 1 in 10 (10%). You can read more here. it wont need much of a spark to set it all off. Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. In theory . Australia just signed an agreement with UK Defense minister to dedicate Wharf and logistics to readily accommodate Royal Navy ships basing them selves there . if 25% could actually get out of harbour before breaking down! People always seem to vastly underestimate the effectiveness of a medium gun. Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. Something that clearly says were here, and were flying over Ukraine and you arent stopping us. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. And in the Western Military District, a missile regiment armed with S-400 Triumf mobile, surface-to-air missile system conducted electronic launches at a range in Leningrad region. It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. Asking whether Australia will sell us a handful of their Block II Harpoons; the practical solution to the (cancelled) interim AShM requirement? Zelensky thanked Blinken on Twitter after their meeting and said he was counting on stronger 'economic& financial' cooperation from the West. Any damage to external sensors, VLS tubes, the bridge area, mast, or flight deck would be enough to take it out of the fight. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. Ill also add American Democrats have a strong distaste for Putin starting roughly in early 2017 when US intelligence agencies determined Russia helped elect Trump. Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! (apologies for the convoluted English there!). The SPEAR seems limited against a target like a ship. "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. How would you like me to paint Corbin and Johnson with the same brush? Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. The finger of suspicion immediately fell on Russia, although Ukrainian officials said critical infrastructure had not been targeted. It seems Not! As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? General Carter, who joined the Royal Green Jackets in 1977, has been head of the armed forces since June 2018. Push buttons. Germany was starved to death in WW1 by the blockade of the North sea and WW2 bomber command destroyed its industrial might. Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts. The two Russian vessels in the video released Wednesday are the first the military has announced operating off Hawaii since the new year. 'The current deployments are versatile. Mr Putin is aware that as Ukraine does not belong to Nato, there will be no military response by Western states. production rates are a worry. Western military analysts have suggested Russia cannot keep such troops deployed where they are indefinitely for financial and logistical reasons and would need to pull them back by summer. Certainly surprised Germany seems so acquiescent about potentially putting itself back on the front line with only Poland as that buffer again. The Ivan Gren-class can transport 40 BTRs or IFVs and 300 troops. With the US on side, it could even be a NATO contingent. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. Yes, its certainly a complex situation, aided no doubt by a perceived weakness of the US, which is currently very poorly led and has been for several years. And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. Its the bowl of gruel and the slice of old bread that really makes it all worthwhile. Yes and who do you think gave them the green light. And therein lies the fate of the world!! I cant imagine we would though, as it could cause an incident in the channel. In comments that will alarm Kiev, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said her country needs 'a reliable Russia' to supply Europe with gas. Im afraid Martlet wouldnt scratch the paint on a Kirov, whilst the Wildcat wouldnt get within range to launch kinetics before being eliminated by the Grumble. As for the numbers unvaccinated, I know Putins trolls have been stoking that fire with conspiracy theories about the vaccines. Do you regard all the military and NHS etc senior people joining companies after they retire that they may well have helped gain orders as corruption? NATO Aid to the Ukraine is not some knee jerk reaction to current events,there have been initiatives underway since independence in 1991,and especially since 2014,in the case of the UK under Operation Orbital. This is howRead more , Thats reassuring.Thanks. THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. Chechen warlord 'seriously ill' but refuses to call Russian doctors over 'poison' fears Ramzan Kadyrov is the leader of Chechnya and a close confidant of Vladimir Putin So is his agenda really totally different? He then moves on to Berlin and will also hold talks with France and the UK. It is a show of force and plans for a possible invasion. He told officials the UK stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Baltic state a Nato ally. During his meeting with Zelensky today, Blinken reaffirmed the American commitment to his nation's sovereignty and said Ukraine had faced 'relentless aggression from Moscow' since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Find out more. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. "There is nothing unusual here: it is commonplace, but this time the ship is equipped with the latest hypersonic rocket system Zircon, which has no match. You are just scapegoating Douglas. Surely you mean the Syrians? It had been thought Mr Putin would choose the 'simple option' of sending troops into the Donbass region in south-eastern Ukraine and then negotiate for it to become an independent state, providing a buffer between pro-western Ukraine andRussia. Er, US forces are in Poland and no doubt in the Ukraine. The warship is feared to be loaded with 7,000mph hypersonic missiles with a range of over 600 miles. Yes, have to agree, Gallipoli wasnt one of our finest ever ventures. Royal Navy warship @HMSPortland is tracking Russian guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov and accompanying tanker Kama as they sail in international waters close to the UK. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. it was not to long ago that a few Russian soldiers died in a Russian barracks collapse, dont believe your own hype, and considering the Ukraine people are fighting for its independence, where they are stationed does not matter. And hand wash Plane Cleaning popping up everywhere? The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. 'The different scenarios for how exactly Russia might seek to persuade the West to meet its (security) demands by punishing Kyiv don't even necessarily include a land incursion,' he said. Russia's warns Britain over navy confrontation, Raab: Russia being 'predictably inaccurate', Britain says it will always defend seafaring rights, Russia says London is sowing barefaced lies. Really poor analysis of a foreign state. As this is different from Davids comment below Ill go away and try to get some evidence. Build the strongest argument relying on authoritative content, attorney-editor expertise, and industry defining technology. 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned. This was to determine if the resurrected Blake and Tiger would stand a chance against the Belgrano, if they actually faced off. There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. NOTAMs will clear seaways fast, whilst the Falklands demonstrated the potency of AsUW back then. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. . Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the British warship, which was travelling from the Ukrainian port of Odessa to the Georgian port of Batumi, was acting in accordance with the law and had been in international waters. All depends on how you define corruption but generally speaking most countries are corrupt at some or all levels us included. Where do they and other countries replace it from? So were Western economies corrupt, going back in time. https://www.army-technology.com/projects/land-based-future-local-area-air-defence-system-flaads-land/, Is Russia just grandstanding in some effort to remove the economic sanctions? This is why US UKRead more . Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? The Royal Navy has kept close watch as four Russian ships sheltered from rough weather in the seas off the east coast of Scotland. 'I strongly, strongly hope that we can keep this on a diplomatic and peaceful path, but ultimately, that's going to be President Putin's decision.'. The proliferation of this capability within the new Russian Navy is profoundly changing its ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets. That's why he wants to overthrow the government of Volodymyr Zelenskyj in Kyiv. slow not stealthy the bocks the UK has have quite limited onboard electronics. The politicians have finally realised that imposing cuts on manpower and platform numbers relentlessly for the last 70 years has led to a navy that is too small to fully fulfil its Gobal Britain role. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. Trump was right about Germany being too dependent upon Russian gas and some EU states not spending enough on defence. Pity we didnt keep developing the 6 system fitted to Tiger and Blake? Ukraine didnt invent the weapons so im curious how much of them they could have used and ultimately maintained over time. I think it is sad that Biden never got a shot at the Presidency a decade ago. You forgot about their national dish: kapusta cabbage soup, the outer leaves of which can be distilled hic apparently hic. Moscow could launch an attack on Ukraine from Crimea and seize territory up to the Dnieper River that could serve as a natural barrier against any Ukrainian counter-offensive, said Konrad Muzyka, director of the Poland-based Rochan consultancy. He sees weakness and disharmony and a split America with half the voters seeing thier Country as an island totally ignorant of what losing Europe would mean to the US position in the World. Im not entirely sure how/where you have Ur info ref Astutes having v limited Comms when dived from? Will it would be nice not to hear from that stroppy self-important brat anymore, I doubt your proposal will solve either of the threats we face; Russian aggression and climate-climate. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been closely monitored by Nato navies on its maiden voyage armed with 6,670mph Zircon weapons. Certainly, if small, but it isnt going to be sinking any frigates or destroyers let alone a cruiser many of which are being fitted with anti shell or missile weapons. Unfortunately we are in a poor starting position militarily, as is most of NATO if things escalate. Agreed. Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. General Sir Nick Carter delivering the annual Royal United Services Institute lecture. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. If you mean why T26 isnt fitted with ASROC, then that has been explained at length by many other commentators, and with very good reason. It was not immediately clear what equipment would be arriving today. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. Morning Sean. Yep 100%. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. We will see who is right in a month or two. Looking to impress on Moscow the need for de-escalation, he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov decided yesterday 'it would be useful' to meet in person on Friday in Geneva. I think you have hit the nail on the head. We are in a potentially high risk scenario all it takes is a trigger point. The task group were joined by RAF Typhoon and F-35s jets, plus tankers RFA Tideforce and RFA Tiderace. The only delusional people are the idiots who think Biden is doing a good job; hes lost Afghanistan, Ukraine next, and probably Taiwan in 2023 when this emboldensRead more . There are only 4 sets available for the Type 45s taken off the Type 22 Batch 3s. Like pieces on a chess board, I suppose not all of the movements need to make sense. [1/6]British Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyer HMS Defender is docked in the Black Sea port of Odessa, Ukraine June 18, 2021. Russian warships have been seen acting unusually off the south coast of Ireland. This alone would send a message and along with the news that an Ohio class arsenal boat is currently sunning of Cyprus when normally the whereabouts is secret says alot. NOT, should have out an archer. UK could learn a few things by this process and not immediately scrap stuff. A distraction for poor ratings at home possibly. THey may have a go at making life uncomfortable for the US there as well. In this second scenario NATO troops/aircraft dont even need to be in Ukraine thereby making it difficult for Putin to complain. A source familiar with the Russian Defence Ministry's thinking said this was the most likely scenario if Moscow decided to attack, but that he was unaware of any such decision. [However] when youre up against a determined opponent on the battlefield you have to go close and personal with your enemy. the disaster of the BEF and lack of anti tank capability that was promised in the event of conflict, sadly never materialised. We have Astute, which is the finest anti ship weapon in the world, along with NATO and allied nuclear boats, its enough toRead more . READ NEXT:Army poised to send 'game-changing' tanks to Ukraine to smash RussiaBefore and after maps show Russia's territorial losses in UkraineUK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontlineCleverly under pressure over German spy - Britain battles 'silent war'Putin replaces 'General Armageddon' after three months in top job. This stuff was going on long before sites like this were around to report it in the public domain. Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! Regime change? Next time round-Hillary Clinton vsRead more , Grandpa Biden has been engaged with the Pentagon bigwigs and was informed that Troops had already been pulled out of Vietnam .Now have your 40 winks and Cocoa, You cant blame Trump for this. I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. Didnt Bidens Son in law have an interest in the Ukraine (monetary) ? UK politicians have been cutting our forces (numerically) once or twice a decade since the end of the Korean War, ie over the last 70 years, not just the last 30 years. Time to send some Astutes to the Med for target practice! SPEAR 3 will have a small warhead, but it will be very accurate. Not many decent investigative journos around now. I think so. get her back in dock and rebuild her from the inside out. Etc, etc. "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . The Kremlin also deployed servicemen to Belarus this week, ostensibly for major military operations with the country, sparking fears in neighbouring Lithuania. Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. "As I said, it has no equivalent in any country in the world. Going after the Ukraine neatly side steps the maritime flank to some extent. Well the attacks came from Yemen itself as did missiles over night last night they arent coming from Iranian soil. Initially other then a echo sounder suite for navigation which is a safety requirement, there are no current plans for a ASW fit on the T31s, for the reasons you have stated. Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said the intelligence was 'very credible.'. To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov is closely monitored by #SNMG1 ship HMS Portland in the North Sea on Jan. 9 #DeterandDefend #StrongerTogether pic.twitter.com/6DN7EmL7EO. Concussion will do too much damage. The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. When you consider bang for buck (price index), how long until Chinas defense budget alone will be equal? I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. HITLER AND NAPOLEON DID AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT THEM. I think one of Moscow's long-standing goals has been to try to sow divisions between and within our countries and quite simply, we cannot and will not let them do that. Spain is sending warships to join Nato naval forces in the Mediterranean and the Black Sea, and Denmark also said it would send a frigate to the Baltic Sea. The Defence Forces is monitoring a group of Russia warships which have been spotted acting unusually off the south of the country. But they need to be postured in way that showed the West meant business. Clearly I could be wrong on this. The official warned the Kremlin: 'Our message, and that of our allies and partners, is that Russia has two choices: diplomacy and de-escalation, or escalation and massive consequences. UK, US and some Baltic states seem to be the only ones that seem they maybe willing to fight. View our online Press Pack. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". Its possible if Putin gets really aggressive it could unite the US to someRead more . pic.twitter.com/NDzRz2MwqU, Ministry of Defence (@DefenceHQ) January 21, 2022. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki warned of human rights violations and war crimes if diplomacy failed and the Russian government went ahead with its plans. Those deliveries are ongoing, and there are more scheduled in the coming weeks.. Under USSR the orders would come from Moscow but the big red button was at the command post for each group of silos in Ukraine. I know Sean but she would certainly Grind Vlad Putin down, Thats true enough, she grinds me down and I accept the science behind climate change!! The big question is-could this conflict once started, and if NATO do get involved, be limited to a conventional battle? However, the MoD has failed to reveal which, if any, of the existing equipment programmes will be cut to reduce the funding gap. I wouldnt imagine it would be allowed under international law. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. 36 minutes ago. If the RN really wants anti ship missiles, we would get them. Reuters, the news and media division of Thomson Reuters, is the worlds largest multimedia news provider, reaching billions of people worldwide every day. The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. No they didnt. The huge explosion at the military complex of Parchin, 30 kilometers southeast Tehran. The assessment said Moscow had deployed troops to the border on a 'permanent' basis and said the movement of 'stockpiles of ammunition, field hospitals and security services' to the hinterlands confirmed 'the preparation for offensive operations'. The volume of gas supplyable through Nordstream 2 is roughly equivalent to the entire energy use of UK or another large European country. the less we have to do with the ukraine the better. But do we have the money or willingness in the population to spend what money we have on defence rather than health or social services for example? The US Coast Guard in Alaska came across Russian and Chinese vessels on an ordinary patrol earlier this month, the agency has said. Ukraine warns Russia has 'almost completed' build-up of forces near border - CNN. F35 will be able to carry 8 of these missiles internally. France Germany etc may send troops to countries near Ukraine but fighting Ill be surprised. There are plenty of other tough choices we need to make in order to solve climate change, I know but what really gets my goat, are the people who whi ge about C C then drive their kids to school, in those bloody 44 SUVs and the School is within walking distance. A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. Its a gap that worries the ranks the most! one area that peeves me is that we no longer have the facilities to build produce the equipment fast enough. Large cruise missile ship, the Marshal Ustinov, is one of at least three Russian navy ships that have been travelling back from the Mediterranean to their home port in the north of Russia. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken today warnedRussia could attack Ukraine on 'very short notice'during a meeting with UkrainianPresident Volodymyr Zelensky at the American embassy in Kiev. So many completely underestimate the complexity and difficulties of achieving the kill chain with Anti ship missiles. Defence chiefs have been keen to suggest new cyber and space capabilities will be major beneficiaries of any extra money for Defence. Please review our, You need to be a subscriber to join the conversation. The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Kimball and its commander, Capt. The comments below have not been moderated, By
Thats what I was thinking, but invading Ukraine probably isnt allowed under international law. Hi mate. I dont think Ukraine had control over those ICBMs on their soil, not without modifications to launch control facilities etc. Meanwhile, in a show of support for former Soviet republics, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace yesterday visited Latvia. Munich - Officially, Vladimir Putin's goal in the Ukraine war is still to denazify the neighboring country. Try it too often, find work elsewhere. Several Latvians were arrested when they returned from fighting in the Ukraine they had been on the Russian side! Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. You are right. We have got troops there, albeit only a small number in a training and advisory role still complicates the plot for Putin. Could be a rerun of the 1904 Russian fleet of to the far East didnt go too well for them then but they did attack Traelers of dogger bank. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. We must stand with our Ukrainian allies., Biden has also authorized $200 million in additional support to meet Ukraines emergency defense needs, according to a U.S. State Department spokesperson. Britain said the shots were part of a Russian gunnery exercise. Spot on Johnathan, nothing beats the smell of Cordite when doing a spread or up ladder SU shoot. The Coast Guard said the ship is . The German government even went so far as to brief journalists on Tuesday that cutting Russia off from international banking systems - the so-called 'nuclear option' of sanctions - was off the table, prompting angry denials from Washington. Also Congress now has the Trump White House documents related to Jan 6. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. The operation could begin with artillery, missile and air strikes on Ukrainian units in the south, and special forces units might seize bridges and railway junctions, allowing troops and tanks to advance, he said. 'This of course would be the most costly economically, politically and in terms of human lives and that's probably why it's least likely,' Melvin said of an all-out invasion. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events.